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Post by thejinkazama on Jul 30, 2018 11:18:36 GMT -5
Interesting, I'd never come across this before! I naively thought DOND was another great British invention (how wrong could I be). I see they also had women opening the boxes at one stage or another. Again, I thought this was something the Americans brought in when they adapted it. What time is/was DOND shown in the US? In the UK it was around the 4pm mark. I wonder if this is the reason they toned it down. It was very successful when it launched here in 2005 but hasn't aired in a couple of years now. The American version aired in Primetime, so from 8pm to 11pm ET, but I'm pretty sure it was 8pm. That possibly explains the difference then. |
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Post by tts500 on Aug 2, 2018 7:14:36 GMT -5
What do you think about "Miljoenenjacht", the original version of the "Deal or No Deal"? Interesting, I'd never come across this before! I naively thought DOND was another great British invention (how wrong could I be). I see they also had women opening the boxes at one stage or another. Again, I thought this was something the Americans brought in when they adapted it. What time is/was DOND shown in the US? In the UK it was around the 4pm mark. I wonder if this is the reason they toned it down. It was very successful when it launched here in 2005 but hasn't aired in a couple of years now. Actually, you're right. "Miljoenenjacht" started using models to open the cases in 2010 (show's airing since 2000, DoND endgame since 2003). Before, models used to just bring cases to the set at the beginning of the show and before the endgame. In the DoND game, these were opened by the other contestants. In 2010, they've changed this to use models to bring the cases and open them. |
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Post by thejinkazama on Aug 3, 2018 13:31:12 GMT -5
It seems I know more than I think I do! Thanks for clarifying.
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Post by Mangu99 on Aug 4, 2018 12:02:39 GMT -5
It's always interesting to see how the show varies around the world. Here in the UK, it was future contestants who would open the boxes. Here in Italy we had our own version of Deal or No Deal for quite a while, it was called Affari Tuoi (Your Business) and was very similar to the British version: there were 20 boxes, named after the 20 regions of Italy, and each one of them was opened by a future contestant that lived in the region represented by the box. After several years a consumers organisation discovered that the game was rigged, as the contestants knew the content of the boxes in advance to keep the biggest prizes in play and to make people watch the show until the end ( news article). Last year the show had low ratings and was cancelled. It will probably be back in 2019 but I really hope they don't renew it for another season, I'd rather watch the US version than see actors ruin a great format. |
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Post by thejinkazama on Aug 8, 2018 3:52:12 GMT -5
It's always interesting to see how the show varies around the world. Here in the UK, it was future contestants who would open the boxes. Here in Italy we had our own version of Deal or No Deal for quite a while, it was called Affari Tuoi (Your Business) and was very similar to the British version: there were 20 boxes, named after the 20 regions of Italy, and each one of them was opened by a future contestant that lived in the region represented by the box. After several years a consumers organisation discovered that the game was rigged, as the contestants knew the content of the boxes in advance to keep the biggest prizes in play and to make people watch the show until the end ( news article). Last year the show had low ratings and was cancelled. It will probably be back in 2019 but I really hope they don't renew it for another season, I'd rather watch the US version than see actors ruin a great format. I've just read through the article you linked to; was it proven to be a legitimate claim? If so, that's really disappointing. |
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Post by Mangu99 on Aug 9, 2018 17:28:22 GMT -5
Here in Italy we had our own version of Deal or No Deal for quite a while, it was called Affari Tuoi (Your Business) and was very similar to the British version: there were 20 boxes, named after the 20 regions of Italy, and each one of them was opened by a future contestant that lived in the region represented by the box. After several years a consumers organisation discovered that the game was rigged, as the contestants knew the content of the boxes in advance to keep the biggest prizes in play and to make people watch the show until the end ( news article). Last year the show had low ratings and was cancelled. It will probably be back in 2019 but I really hope they don't renew it for another season, I'd rather watch the US version than see actors ruin a great format. I've just read through the article you linked to; was it proven to be a legitimate claim? If so, that's really disappointing. RAI, the broadcasting company, claims the game is legitimate and supervised by an independent adjudicator, but it's quite obvious that it is rigged, the same consumers organisation also found out that there were contestants with numbers corresponding to the boxes to open written on their hands.  Fun fact: That woman was later interviewed and said that on her hand she had written telephone numbers, but she was not able to explain why she was looking at them during the game... |
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Post by thejinkazama on Aug 10, 2018 3:07:35 GMT -5
I've just read through the article you linked to; was it proven to be a legitimate claim? If so, that's really disappointing. RAI, the broadcasting company, claims the game is legitimate and supervised by an independent adjudicator, but it's quite obvious that it is rigged, the same consumers organisation also found out that there were contestants with numbers corresponding to the boxes to open written on their hands. Fun fact: That woman was later interviewed and said that on her hand she had written telephone numbers, but she was not able to explain why she was looking at them during the game... So she's the contestant playing in that episode and she knows the value of her 14 box?! That's poor. I wonder if the audience ever noticed. |
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Post by Mangu99 on Aug 11, 2018 18:37:04 GMT -5
RAI, the broadcasting company, claims the game is legitimate and supervised by an independent adjudicator, but it's quite obvious that it is rigged, the same consumers organisation also found out that there were contestants with numbers corresponding to the boxes to open written on their hands. Fun fact: That woman was later interviewed and said that on her hand she had written telephone numbers, but she was not able to explain why she was looking at them during the game... So she's the contestant playing in that episode and she knows the value of her 14 box?! That's poor. I wonder if the audience ever noticed. Not only she knows the value of her box, but presumably she also knows the values of the other boxes, or at least the order she has to follow while opening them. You have to remember that the goal of this 'trick' is to keep higher amounts of cash in play, in order to make people watch the show until the end and have higher ratings. I know that's poor and unbelievable, in fact I stopped watching this show many years ago! |
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Post by thejinkazama on Aug 12, 2018 11:26:04 GMT -5
How does she know the order to follow? Was it something the contestants rehearsed or learned prior to playing?
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Post by Mangu99 on Aug 13, 2018 16:52:52 GMT -5
How does she know the order to follow? Was it something the contestants rehearsed or learned prior to playing? I don't know if it was rehearsed or not, all I know is that the contestants were told by the producers the order to follow in the game and they had to remember it while playing. As the woman in the picture could not memorize the sequence and could not keep a piece of paper with her during the game, she decided to write those numbers on her hands. I think it was not a good choice, as thanks to her everyone discovered what had been going on for years behind the scenes of the show. |
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Post by thejinkazama on Aug 15, 2018 4:24:34 GMT -5
How does she know the order to follow? Was it something the contestants rehearsed or learned prior to playing? I don't know if it was rehearsed or not, all I know is that the contestants were told by the producers the order to follow in the game and they had to remember it while playing. As the woman in the picture could not memorize the sequence and could not keep a piece of paper with her during the game, she decided to write those numbers on her hands. I think it was not a good choice, as thanks to her everyone discovered what had been going on for years behind the scenes of the show. Was there other evidence found to prove cheating aside from what you've shown me? |
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Post by Mangu99 on Aug 20, 2018 4:56:36 GMT -5
I don't know if it was rehearsed or not, all I know is that the contestants were told by the producers the order to follow in the game and they had to remember it while playing. As the woman in the picture could not memorize the sequence and could not keep a piece of paper with her during the game, she decided to write those numbers on her hands. I think it was not a good choice, as thanks to her everyone discovered what had been going on for years behind the scenes of the show. Was there other evidence found to prove cheating aside from what you've shown me? Yes, there's more! What I've shown you happened in 2006 and in that year the show got sued, so they needed to find a way to rig the game in a more clever way, to make it appear legitimate. In the last few seasons this was the procedure they followed: 1) At the audition, they asked every single contestant what their favourite or lucky numbers were; 2) When a contestant had to play, they assigned to the box with his/her lucky number the amount of money they wanted to keep in play until the end; 3) They gave to the contestant the opportunity to play with the box with their lucky number on it. In this way the contestant didn't know anything about the value of the boxes, and the game could be considered legitimate. This was until another Italian TV program, called Striscia la notizia, a satirical show that criticizes government corruption and exposes scams, received by an anonymous person (presumably working for Affari tuoi) an audio recording of the host insulting a contestant that was expected to win 150.000 € (this was the amount of money the producers assigned to the box with her lucky number on it) but decided to accept the offer of the Banker and basically "ruined" that episode. In the audio recording the host was telling the producers that they should have slapped her, as they had to convince her to refuse the offer and continue playing. This happened last season (in 2017), and the host (Flavio Insinna) was later fired. If the show comes back next season, he will not be part of it. This show is a mess and it's difficult to explain everything in a clear way. I tried to explain it as best as I could, if something isn't clear let me know. |
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Post by thejinkazama on Aug 21, 2018 14:09:35 GMT -5
I've got you, thanks. That's really sad to hear, a real mess indeed.
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Post by tts500 on Sept 8, 2018 8:16:21 GMT -5
Wow, the Italian version is such a mess... I've had no idea.
But, here's the new trailer of the American version of Deal or No Deal, if you're still looking forward to it.
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Post by JCEurovision on Sept 14, 2018 7:06:18 GMT -5
One of those models in the revived season is Mahogany Lox, the only female from the Magcon group. Another one is Patricia Kara, the only one from the original run.
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) I guess the next on will be Poland then...
