Music Distribution

[GSK]

Dec 17, 2012 12:00:15 GMT -5 FrankT said:

I didn't do it!!!

I highly doubt anyone had even suspected you.

[Randydorney]

I'm upset to be reading this....come on people! This sucks for those who wanted to enjoy the music and now its ruin by a person who wanted to share with the world. EXTREMELY Mad and as well hoping the person comes forward for the wrong doing they did.

[leimeisei]

I've considered multiple times to release all of my software's source code. Situations like this are exactly why I haven't yet.

[!Tommy]

Personally, I propose making the fan-games board/auditions a little stricter in the rules. It really isn't that hard to get into it and this might possibly weed out the people who are really serious about getting in and those who just want to get the files and or steal them. But being a member for just 30 days is a bit too easy. I would say at least half a year or so of being an active member. That's just my two cents though.

[GSK]

Dec 22, 2012 12:36:43 GMT -5 !Tommy said:

Personally, I propose making the fan-games board/auditions a little stricter in the rules. It really isn't that hard to get into it and this might possibly weed out the people who are really serious about getting in and those who just want to get the files and or steal them. But being a member for just 30 days is a bit too easy. I would say at least half a year or so of being an active member. That's just my two cents though.

I would support this. I know the rules state that some members may only want to share their content and not participate in discussion, but I believe that should also be lifted. Participating in a community is good. It builds trust. Not requiring that participation doesn't enable trust.

[Gagamillionaire]

Sounds good to me. I always found the game creator rule a bit difficult. But what about the person who already has the password? Assuming FinalAnswer19 doesn't find out who did it, how can we stop them from sharing everybody's work with the world again?

[GSK]

Dec 22, 2012 14:45:26 GMT -5 Gagamillionaire said:

Sounds good to me. I always found the game creator rule a bit difficult. But what about the person who already has the password? Assuming FinalAnswer19 doesn't find out who did it, how can we stop them from sharing everybody's work with the world again?

The staff can issue a password change, perhaps with some questions that could be designed to weed out who did it.

[Gagamillionaire]

Well, we've had a password change before, turns out that wasn't an optimal solution. I like the idea with the questions, though. What I don't like is that this whole thing is starting to more and more resemble a police operation. I agree that it's necessary but it bugs me to no end that someone would exploit our trust so shamelessly.

[!Tommy]

A password reset may work out, but that's only the surface. This may need to be split into another thread or perhaps ceased all together since I don't know what the staff does behind the scenes. But I would say raising the requirement for the fan games section to being an active member half a year, contributing to threads or creating your own. Having at least 100 or so posts and not just "Yeah, I agree." or "Cool!" or something to that degree. It needs to be something of value. If people want the music cues THAT badly, then they'll stick with the requirements and in the meantime, we'll be able to make our own observations as well because it seems that trolls and thieves make themselves apparent.

Gagamillionaire: I agree that it's terrible to turn this into a police operation, but the fact that we're basically handing out something so rare and protected, it needs to be guarded. The bank wouldn't leave money just sitting out in the open and have good faith in people to not steal it. Sadly, it's how society works now and it seems so many people are so boneheaded that they all have the stupidest ideas that it makes the person with common sense just go crazy.

Again, if anything else is going behind the scenes, we don't want to tell you guys how to run the forum and I apologize if we're going off topic. Basically it's just a few suggestions of mine to help preserve the integrity of us who are serious about this forum and not just thieves out for super rare items.

[boogyman10o1]

I agree with you on raising the requirement in order to gain access the Fan Games section. The thing that I am wondering about are the people who have access that are under 100 posts. Do we change the pass again and deny the ones that had the password before? Or, keep the pass that we have now and raise the requirement for future users?

[!Tommy]

That's kind of hard to say since I myself would be included in the less than 100 posts category, but I don't know who even has access to the fan games section already. Unless we do a 50:50 type deal. Either have 100 posts+ and be active for 6 months, or have 50+ posts but have been here a year or more. I'm not even sure the time length would be an issue since a lot of people who are impatience for the cues, I don't think they'd bother coming back after a years time and having to make 50 posts in the meantime. Basically I think with the time span, people will take notice if they're serious about being part of this community or not or if they're just here for the cues. Hopefully we can get Regisfan's feedback as well and see how he feels about our ideas.

[RegisFan]

Setting the rules is actually a very delicate business. There is a tendency, especially after incidents like this one, to want to raise the security so high that it's almost impossible to gain entry to the fan games board. And yes, that would certainly keep almost all of the troublemakers out. But when you do that, you discourage a lot of people from even trying to gain access in the first place. If the procedure is too daunting, too long, or just too much effort, nobody is going to undertake it. I don't want completely honest, talented people to shrug their shoulders and leave the site because it's easier to gain U.S. citizenship than it is to get our password. The fan games board is a huge draw for Millionaire Fans. We've had so many great members join this community since that part of the site debuted. Would we still have any of them if the procedure was much harder than it is now?

The amazing thing about the current system is that the members have done a remarkably good job of policing themselves. For instance, it was mentioned above that game creators should have to participate as much as the non-game creators to get the password. The funny thing is that's exactly how it's been for months now. We've had non-participating game creators come in and ask for the password, and the community generally shoots them down immediately and asks that they participate more, even though the rules clearly state that they're eligible. So, in a way, the rules seem to adapt to the needs of the community even without being changed.

I will say this before we continue this discussion. Next year is going to be a big year for Millionaire Fans. I was going to keep this a secret for as long as possible, but since this discussion is happening now, I might as well tease you all a bit. The site is going to undergo some very positive changes early next year, and included in those changes is a major upgrade in security for the fan games board that many of you have been asking a very long time for. That's all I'm going to say for now, but some of your issues with the security will be alleviated in a month or two.

That being said, I am listening. If you guys demand a change in the audition procedure, I'm open to enacting it. This discussion is great because it's finally getting the whole community to discuss this procedure together. I only ask that in your discussion you keep in mind my desire to keep the fan games board an attainable dream for new members, not an insurmountable obstacle.

[!Tommy]

Dec 23, 2012 0:07:35 GMT -5 RegisFan said:

I will say this before we continue this discussion. Next year is going to be a big year for Millionaire Fans. I was going to keep this a secret for as long as possible, but since this discussion is happening now, I might as well tease you all a bit. The site is going to undergo some very positive changes early next year, and included in those changes is a major upgrade in security for the fan games board that many of you have been asking a very long time for. That's all I'm going to say for now, but some of your issues with the security will be alleviated in a month or two.

Ooooooh, sounds fun!

But Regisfan makes a great point. We don't want to discourage those who are honest and would like to enjoy this stuff as much as we do. Maybe before we start making even more suggestions, we can wait and see what the awesome Regisfan has in store for us! I have my own theories but I could be wrong so I'm not saying what I think it could be. But this is a great community regardless and we still want a good name for ourselves rather than being tight snobs who basically initiate you through a very long and tedious process.

[wwtbamfan]

I agree with Regisfan. If we set the requirements too high, then even completely honest people could be discouraged to not even attempt to send an Audition.

I also agree with iTommy. Let's just see what Regisfan's surprise is, and see if after the change will we need an extra requirement or two to help secure our Fan Games sub-board even more.

Zachary
wwtbamfan

[Deleted]

Sorry for the thread bump, but I've been wondering if the individual(s) who re-distributed the music been caught?